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apparently written by doerner and provided to cnn by an lapd source, he alleged 3 threatened to use his navy training to harm police officers involved in the case and their families. quoting here, i will bring unconventional and a symmetrical warfare to those in lapd uniform weather on or off duty. now an irvine couple is shot to death in the parking deck of their upscale complex. the victims are monica quan and her fiance. her father, randy was a retired cop who worked with dorner. inside night, police name christopher jordan dorner the chief suspect in the sunday night murders. police warn the public he is arm and dangerous. dorner is say reservist known to be a skilled marksman. thursday around 1:30 in the morning, ktla reports doerner is spotted in corona. two police officers are in purr cute when dorner gets out of the truck and starts firing. one was grazed and the other not hurt. dorner flees. then a short time later, another shooting involving cops. this time in riverside. police say two officers on routine patrol are shot after being ambushed at an intersection. one officer is dead
apparently written by doerner and provided to cnn by an lapd source, he alleged 3 threatened to use his navy training to harm police officers involved in the case and their families. quoting here, i will bring unconventional and a symmetrical warfare to those in lapd uniform weather on or off duty. now an irvine couple is shot to death in the parking deck of their upscale complex. the victims are monica quan and her fiance. her father, randy was a retired cop who worked with dorner. inside...
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dorner is also a former navy lieutenant. he threatened to target law enforcement officers in retaliation for being fired more than four years ago from the lapd. "outfront" tonight, mike rogers of michigan. good to talk to you, chairman. let me just start, we just had jim clemente on, who worked for the fbi as a profiler. he says he has a friend whose son is on a field trip up to bear mountain, where they believe, where the car was just found, dorner's car was just found and they confirmed it was his a few moments ago. that about 100 fbi agents surrounded these kids, the kids were terrified, they said, you have to leave, they weren't really sure what was going on. i'm trying to get a sense from you of how significant this search effort is right now. i mean, obviously, they're throwing out a number. i don't know whether it really was 100, but it seems significant. >> yeah, any time that you would launch, both the fbi, and i'm sure that the lapd is involved as well, it just shows that it's serious. and what's concerning about t
dorner is also a former navy lieutenant. he threatened to target law enforcement officers in retaliation for being fired more than four years ago from the lapd. "outfront" tonight, mike rogers of michigan. good to talk to you, chairman. let me just start, we just had jim clemente on, who worked for the fbi as a profiler. he says he has a friend whose son is on a field trip up to bear mountain, where they believe, where the car was just found, dorner's car was just found and they...
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navy reserve earlier this year. in fact, just a short time ago, after serving in several overseas jobs. basically as a security officer. he was a lieutenant. he had weapons training in the navy. but not a commando, not a navy s.e.a.l., this was basic security work. nonetheless, he had two awards critically. the rifle marksman ribbon, and the pistol expert medal. this meant he had some qualifications in shooting at some expert level at particular distances or ranges. i think, though, very clear we should also understand that he had expertise through his service as a police officer. many people, many police officers serve in the military reserve, and they have a lot of weapons expertise due to all of that. still, very concerning, obviously, because of his background. >> were you able to learn anything about did the military have any information on his mental health? >> reporter: well, this would be a matter of privacy concerns. but at the moment, they wouldn't publicly release that. at the moment, very preliminary, th
navy reserve earlier this year. in fact, just a short time ago, after serving in several overseas jobs. basically as a security officer. he was a lieutenant. he had weapons training in the navy. but not a commando, not a navy s.e.a.l., this was basic security work. nonetheless, he had two awards critically. the rifle marksman ribbon, and the pistol expert medal. this meant he had some qualifications in shooting at some expert level at particular distances or ranges. i think, though, very clear...
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, according to his navy records. he was fired by the police department of los angeles four years ago. do we know what triggered four years later this rampage? >> reporter: well, he he brought up charges against an officer saying that this officer kicked a homeless man. it was determined later, according to police reports, that these charges were false by dorner. after a while, he was subsequently fired and he refers to that time and time again in his manifesto as the reason that he would wage a vendetta against officers, wolf. >> do we know what he's been doing for the last four years since he was fired from the lapd? >> reporter: unclear from this side in riverside. >> paul vercammen. thank you. we're going to stay on top of this story during our 6:00 p.m. hour. we're going to speak with chief police moose who was linked to the d.c. sniper. >>> let's move to today's dramatic confrontation up on capitol hill. for a short time today, protesters actually shut down today's hearing for president obama's nominee to run th
, according to his navy records. he was fired by the police department of los angeles four years ago. do we know what triggered four years later this rampage? >> reporter: well, he he brought up charges against an officer saying that this officer kicked a homeless man. it was determined later, according to police reports, that these charges were false by dorner. after a while, he was subsequently fired and he refers to that time and time again in his manifesto as the reason that he would...
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. >> reporter: the military warns the army, navy and air force will all see cuts in training and readiness. now, when it comes to the military paycheck, what the pentagon is saying is this latest problem with military pay is because congress, they say, is still funding a number of old, outdated, unneeded weapons. that the pentagon doesn't even want in the inventory anymore. and if that doesn't get fixed, you have to cut the pay, otherwise, another 10,000 troops might have to go. wolf. >> big, big story over there. we'll watch it together with you, barbara, thanks very much. lots at stake for the u.s. military. >>> the former pakistani president pervez musharraf sits down with me only a few weeks before returning back to pakistan where he's now a wanted man. many hot dogs are within you. try pepto-bismol to-go, it's the power of pepto, but it fits in your pocket. now tell the world daniel... of pepto-bismol to-go. >>> i had a feeling of dread when i recently sat down with former pakistani president pervez musharraf here in washington. the conversation was eerily similar to one i had with fo
. >> reporter: the military warns the army, navy and air force will all see cuts in training and readiness. now, when it comes to the military paycheck, what the pentagon is saying is this latest problem with military pay is because congress, they say, is still funding a number of old, outdated, unneeded weapons. that the pentagon doesn't even want in the inventory anymore. and if that doesn't get fixed, you have to cut the pay, otherwise, another 10,000 troops might have to go. wolf....
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navy has ordered this heightened security posture. they're not talking exactly about what they're doing. i think we can well understand that they're going to check everybody's passes, everybody's access, as they come in and out of the many military facilities in california. the big question for the military now, brooke, is does this man still have a military i.d. card. he has uniforms, could he possibly try and sneak on to a military base. brooke? >> to think he's talking to these people, these members of the military, it is almost like he's hiding in plain sight. barbara starr with the news on the heightened security posture in both california and nevada. barbara, thank you so much. we're juggling that story. we're talking about this inclement weather, this blizzard here happening in new england. 40 million people in the storm's path. we're going to take you to staten island coming up next. >>> all right, let's look at these pictures together. this is our roving crew, this is the boston area. and clearly people are out and about as w
navy has ordered this heightened security posture. they're not talking exactly about what they're doing. i think we can well understand that they're going to check everybody's passes, everybody's access, as they come in and out of the many military facilities in california. the big question for the military now, brooke, is does this man still have a military i.d. card. he has uniforms, could he possibly try and sneak on to a military base. brooke? >> to think he's talking to these people,...
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navy. is there any evidence it impacted his psychological state? >> i asked the psychiatrist and he said ptsd might have played a role, but he doesn't think it's the major factor here. ptsd patients are often much more impulsive, sometimes are hearing voices. seem much more traumatized. he seems more angry and narcicisstic. >> i imagine these are things that they're looking at very closely in terms of trying to figure out how to negotiate with this guy. it's clear that he's very much aware of the media. he knows how to use television. he knows how to use the media and knows how forget a message across. whether or not it's enough that it's out there and broadcast, that he will now fold. >> right. they'll try to look at what does he want. and he says he wants his name cleared. doesn't really care if he dies. he says that throughout the manifesto. he wants people to say you were right. >> all right. elizabeth, thank you. fascinating. >>> we are also following of course the two storms that are colliding to create one big blizzard in the northeast. we'l
navy. is there any evidence it impacted his psychological state? >> i asked the psychiatrist and he said ptsd might have played a role, but he doesn't think it's the major factor here. ptsd patients are often much more impulsive, sometimes are hearing voices. seem much more traumatized. he seems more angry and narcicisstic. >> i imagine these are things that they're looking at very closely in terms of trying to figure out how to negotiate with this guy. it's clear that he's very...
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army,army, cutting back on training, readiness of combat brigades, cutting back on operations for the navy, as they try and operate around the world and in the air force, reducing all critical flying hours for pilots. so the bottom line, less readiness across the board, suzanne. >> we understand military pay raise limit what does that mean for folks in the military? >> what we have learned today is that secretary panetta is going to recommend a 1% pay raise for next year. but that is less than it is supposed to be by all accounts. according to the way they calculate these things, it should have been at least 1.7% we're told, that's what the pay rate was this year. that's about $130 a year difference for some junior enlisted personnel, people are really facing a tough time, they have families to support, they need all the pay they can get. if this all goes into effect, they'll see less in their paycheck, suzanne. >> barbara starr, thank you. >>> this is something we have not seen before in past years. take a look at this. this is a few gay and lesbian couples attending a formal uniformed so
army,army, cutting back on training, readiness of combat brigades, cutting back on operations for the navy, as they try and operate around the world and in the air force, reducing all critical flying hours for pilots. so the bottom line, less readiness across the board, suzanne. >> we understand military pay raise limit what does that mean for folks in the military? >> what we have learned today is that secretary panetta is going to recommend a 1% pay raise for next year. but that...
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navy to instill honor, courage and commitment in me. it's in any dna. he is narcissistic. it's addressed from him to america. he thought the whole country needed to hear what he had to say. that's sort of the definition of grandiose. >> wow. yeah. clearly felt he was wronged. and also in the note he left to anderson cooper is he said i am not a liar. it seemed it was so important to share that with america. we know this guy was in the military. could ptsd have played a role in him snapping like this? >> the psychiatrist said it's possible. but he said he treated a lot of people with ptsd, and people with ptsd are more impulsive, don't write well-organized, well-thought out sorts of things. they have quicker episodes, ptsd if, in today, he had it may have played a role, but it doesn't appear to be the major factor. >> senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen, we appreciate your insight this morning. >> thanks. >>> to washington now, where there is a clear rift being reviewed in syria policy. defense secretary leon panetta saying that the u.s. turned down a plan to arm s
navy to instill honor, courage and commitment in me. it's in any dna. he is narcissistic. it's addressed from him to america. he thought the whole country needed to hear what he had to say. that's sort of the definition of grandiose. >> wow. yeah. clearly felt he was wronged. and also in the note he left to anderson cooper is he said i am not a liar. it seemed it was so important to share that with america. we know this guy was in the military. could ptsd have played a role in him...
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navy is preparing to cut it out of the reef. >>> and strained relations between japan and island over disputed islands in the east china sea reached a new revel today. japan's prime minister called china's use of radar, quote, dangerous and regrettable. that kind of radar could be used for information to fire on the japanese ships. we'll keep an eye on it, wolf. >> a little tension going on. thanks very much, lisa, for that. >>> will the boy scouts permit gay leaders and troop members? why you'll have to wait a little longer now to find out. to be the world's best sport sedan... ♪ ...people noticed. ♪ the all-new cadillac ats -- 2013 north american car of the year. ♪ for a limited time, take advantage of this exceptional offer on the all-new cadillac ats. then you're going to love this. right now they're only $14.95! wow-a grt deal just got a whole lot better. hurry. $14.95 won't last. >>> taking a look at this hour's hot shots, a group of penguins approach an ireporter. in mire ra mar, 9,000 candles are lit. and in missouri, the ice begins to thaw at a park. >>> too complex, th
navy is preparing to cut it out of the reef. >>> and strained relations between japan and island over disputed islands in the east china sea reached a new revel today. japan's prime minister called china's use of radar, quote, dangerous and regrettable. that kind of radar could be used for information to fire on the japanese ships. we'll keep an eye on it, wolf. >> a little tension going on. thanks very much, lisa, for that. >>> will the boy scouts permit gay leaders and...
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dorner was an officer in 2009 and reservist for the united states navy. of particular interest at this point in the investigation is a multipage manifesto in which the suspect has implicated himself in the slayings. >> in that manifesto dorner threatened to hurt police officers and their families according to the "l.a. times," dorner was angry with quan's father, he's now retired and may have been involved in dorner's firing in 2009. now the manifesto the writings were posted earlier on a message board. in the meantime authorities say dorner may be involved in three new shootings just this morning, near los angeles. one officer is dead and two others were hurt. on the phone right now, cnn's paul vercannon. this is frightening. >> it is. certainly the los angeles police department they have department headquarters at los angeles and numerous officers out to search for dorner. where one of the shootings occurred where an officer wound up dead and another hurt, they were going into a protective mode. you hear apparently dorner had threatened numerous officer
dorner was an officer in 2009 and reservist for the united states navy. of particular interest at this point in the investigation is a multipage manifesto in which the suspect has implicated himself in the slayings. >> in that manifesto dorner threatened to hurt police officers and their families according to the "l.a. times," dorner was angry with quan's father, he's now retired and may have been involved in dorner's firing in 2009. now the manifesto the writings were posted...
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. >>> horrifying 911 tapes from the moments after a navy s.e.a.l. sniper was murdered at a texas gun range. you'll hear what his sister has to say about the suspects. stand by. epp;o/ñ0/pt>> we're just getting some new information here into the situation room. new information about the nomination of the former senator, chuck hagel, to be the nation's next secretary of defense. let's go to capitol hill to dana bash. what are you learning? >> reporter: cnn has learned that chuck hagel's confirmation to be the next defense secretary appears to be all but certain. the reason we can report that is by some excellent digging by our producers. what they have found out is they have found at least five republican senators who have said that they would oppose any filibuster to block hagel's nomination. so mathematically what that would mean is even if there would be a filibuster, which is still an if, he would likely have the votes to overcome that and would go on to become the next defense secretary. they talked to a lot of senators, a lot of senators'
. >>> horrifying 911 tapes from the moments after a navy s.e.a.l. sniper was murdered at a texas gun range. you'll hear what his sister has to say about the suspects. stand by. epp;o/ñ0/pt>> we're just getting some new information here into the situation room. new information about the nomination of the former senator, chuck hagel, to be the nation's next secretary of defense. let's go to capitol hill to dana bash. what are you learning? >> reporter: cnn has learned that...
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wondering whether presidential candidate ron paul crossed the line with a tweet over the death of a former navy s.e.a.l. controversial story, coming up. >>> safe and sound. a 5-year-old hostage back with his family this morning after an fbi raid to rescue him. but the process now to deal with what happened just beginning for the boy and his family. >>> pictures are worth 1,000 words, but was this one worth suspending a freshman from his high school? >>> and firing away. that's cnn's piers morgan, pulling the trigger on a powerful rifle. welcome back to "early start." john berman co-hosts "starting point" a little later on. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. >>> a week after being held hostage in an underground bunker. a kinder gartner will get to spend his birthday tomorrow in his family's arms. the fbi stormed that bunker and safely rescued little ethan. his kidnapper jimmy lee dykes died during the raid. he boarded the ethan's school bus last week and shot and killed the bus driver, charles poland. after negotiations deteriorated, the fbi went in for the rescue. he's okay, at least physically. >> t
wondering whether presidential candidate ron paul crossed the line with a tweet over the death of a former navy s.e.a.l. controversial story, coming up. >>> safe and sound. a 5-year-old hostage back with his family this morning after an fbi raid to rescue him. but the process now to deal with what happened just beginning for the boy and his family. >>> pictures are worth 1,000 words, but was this one worth suspending a freshman from his high school? >>> and firing...
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there's a hispanic who was a former navy s.e.a.l. and has been in the financial sectors for 15 years. there's also former governor weld. we have good candidates. i think you're going to see them come in and filing now. this is a special election. anything can happen in a special election, as scott brown himself shows. >> we don't know what's going to happen. we don't know the democratic candidate may be. what do you think? >> first of all, i applaud senator brown for his decision to step aside, so to speak. i do believe that this seat will now lean democratic for obvious reasons. it is a blue state. the democratic party is much stronger today than it was two years ago and i also believe that duval patrick made a good decision with the interim person that will free up the democratic party that put all of its resources in securing a seat for the special election. there's no question that running for senate is a costly endeavor and with ed markey and perhaps mr. lynch, we'll have a vigorous primary but the democrats are united in massac
there's a hispanic who was a former navy s.e.a.l. and has been in the financial sectors for 15 years. there's also former governor weld. we have good candidates. i think you're going to see them come in and filing now. this is a special election. anything can happen in a special election, as scott brown himself shows. >> we don't know what's going to happen. we don't know the democratic candidate may be. what do you think? >> first of all, i applaud senator brown for his decision to...
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caller: i was in the navy. the demonstration needs to take a look at their commitments and see what commitments they can pare down around the world. we have a defense treaty with japan. if china ever attached taiwan, we were in a position where we would have to borrow money for china to go with -- to go to war with them over this issue. we have gone without a budget three or four years. how can you plan if you cannot have a budget for your country? host: ray locker, usa today. go ahead. guest: there has been some kind of agreement on spending. beyond the sequestration cuts, we have a potential budget showdown coming up at the end of march. we need a continuing resolution, which is a temporary spending bill. most governments, most companies, cannot function effectively as they do not have long-term planning and how they raise and spend money. host: thus the sequestration have more effect on defense commitments -- does sequestration have more effect on defense commitments overseas or here at home? guest: i would
caller: i was in the navy. the demonstration needs to take a look at their commitments and see what commitments they can pare down around the world. we have a defense treaty with japan. if china ever attached taiwan, we were in a position where we would have to borrow money for china to go with -- to go to war with them over this issue. we have gone without a budget three or four years. how can you plan if you cannot have a budget for your country? host: ray locker, usa today. go ahead. guest:...
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it was revealed that the chinese vessel had lot weapons on the japanese navy. i want to hear how much you think an issue this was. >> i was just in that part of the world in the last few months. i had a chance to go to japan and visit with my counterparts in japan and discuss their concerns and then i went on to china to talk with them about their concerns as well. i believe that, especially the secaucus islands and the dispute over that, that territorial dispute, is one that concerns as -- us a great deal. it is the kind of situation where their territorial claims that could ultimately get out of hand and one country or the other could react in a way that could create an even greater crisis. we urge, obviously, both the chinese and the japanese to exercise good judgment. in the pacific, this is a big region. part of our reason to rebalance to the pacific is because we think that, in many ways, our future economic security, our trade relationships, our security relationships will be in that part of the world. and we have great allies in japan and south korea an
it was revealed that the chinese vessel had lot weapons on the japanese navy. i want to hear how much you think an issue this was. >> i was just in that part of the world in the last few months. i had a chance to go to japan and visit with my counterparts in japan and discuss their concerns and then i went on to china to talk with them about their concerns as well. i believe that, especially the secaucus islands and the dispute over that, that territorial dispute, is one that concerns as...
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caller: i am a retired navy contingent -- commander. i have worked for five years as a peer counselor with beds with posttraumatic stress. i am one of the persons who got the veterans health administration to issue a decree that canada's can be used by veterans for the treatment of ptsd -- for better and problems. what is your opinion on the use of cannabis? guest: thank you for your service. you mentioned posttraumatic stress without the disorder. there is a lot of discussion whether ptsd should be renamed posttraumatic stress or pressure madigan injury. there is a lot of validity behind taking a look at the name. many people do not want to be diagnosed as having a disorder on injury -- an industry -- an injury is considered to be more honorable. in washington, d.c., we see people who develop psychosis as a result of using marijuana or the synthetic marijuana. i do not think we know and not yet about the use of marijuana for ptsd. i think we should export it. there should be research done on it. we may be able to use some of the materi
caller: i am a retired navy contingent -- commander. i have worked for five years as a peer counselor with beds with posttraumatic stress. i am one of the persons who got the veterans health administration to issue a decree that canada's can be used by veterans for the treatment of ptsd -- for better and problems. what is your opinion on the use of cannabis? guest: thank you for your service. you mentioned posttraumatic stress without the disorder. there is a lot of discussion whether ptsd...
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but due to physical reasons i am not able but i had a cousin killed in iraq, he spent 25 years as a navy seal and was assassinated in baghdad. host: sorry about your loss. how does it play out in terms about what the american public should know? should people with clearance be told more, people who served in the military no more? caller: i think the least the american bible know, the better off they are. basically they live in glass houses anyway. -- the least the american people know, the better off they are. you sit and listen to all of this it does make you crazy. when you know for a fact -- because you know people personally -- they are being hunted by terrorists from other countries, and they are here on our soil. it is -- don't kid yourself thinking it is happening over there, it is not. host: a caller mentioned iran and a drone that went down in iran allegedly. here is a story from cnn this week. iran says it decoded and released footage from a year of a strong that was down more than a year ago. we have been talking about defense issues. defense secretary leon panetta's farewell
but due to physical reasons i am not able but i had a cousin killed in iraq, he spent 25 years as a navy seal and was assassinated in baghdad. host: sorry about your loss. how does it play out in terms about what the american public should know? should people with clearance be told more, people who served in the military no more? caller: i think the least the american bible know, the better off they are. basically they live in glass houses anyway. -- the least the american people know, the...
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sometimes it is on a navy vessel or sometimes it is back here in the united states. we bring them into a process and we can elicit information from them and put them behind bars. >> is the article iii process an ideal way? isn't there limitations in that process? >> i'm proud of our system of laws here and the article iii process and our track record is strong over the past couple dozen years. so many terrorists have been, in fact, been -- >> i understand. but the first priority is to develop information. but in article iii is not the most conducive to that. >> i disagree with that. >> what about turning over information that will incriminate them? >> it is tailored to the sixes. sometimes an individual will be mandaized. it means that the sfings they give you cannot be used in court. but in fact, the f.b.i. does a great job in eliciting information so they can get information as part of that negotiation with them. they let them know they can languish forever or we can have a dialogue about it. >> just last point. this case that i talked about, this is fully comforta
sometimes it is on a navy vessel or sometimes it is back here in the united states. we bring them into a process and we can elicit information from them and put them behind bars. >> is the article iii process an ideal way? isn't there limitations in that process? >> i'm proud of our system of laws here and the article iii process and our track record is strong over the past couple dozen years. so many terrorists have been, in fact, been -- >> i understand. but the first...
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like to focus on principally is the window between when the attack began and 5:15 in the morning when navy seals glen dowerity and tyrone woods loster that lives. roughly 7 1/2 hours there. and i recognize that in any mill tear conflict, one inevitably faces the proverbial fog of war. but what i'd like to ask you to do is use the 2020 -- use the 0/20 hindsight we have now. if you could go back -- use the 20/20 hindsight we have now. if you could go back in time and play it other again. if at 9:42 p.m. benghazi time when the first attack began, you knew that at 5:15 a.m., two former seals would be on the roof of that annex and would face mortar fire, what specifically could have been done if we had that knowledge and i recognize that is a hypothetical but if we had that knowledge, what military options would there have been to prevent that loss of life and stop that attack at the annex? >> senator, as you said, it's tough to respond to a hypothetical. as long as we're talking about hypotheticals, the best that would have happened here is that we would have had a heads up and we would have h
like to focus on principally is the window between when the attack began and 5:15 in the morning when navy seals glen dowerity and tyrone woods loster that lives. roughly 7 1/2 hours there. and i recognize that in any mill tear conflict, one inevitably faces the proverbial fog of war. but what i'd like to ask you to do is use the 2020 -- use the 0/20 hindsight we have now. if you could go back -- use the 20/20 hindsight we have now. if you could go back in time and play it other again. if at...
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sometimes it is on a navy vessel or sometimes it is back here in the united states. we bring them into a process and we can elicit information from them and put them behind bars. >> is the article iii process an ideal way? isn't there limitations in that process? >> i'm proud of our system of laws here and the article iii process and our track record is strong over the past couple dozen years. so many terrorists have been, in fact, been -- >> i understand. but the first priority is to develop information. but in article iii is not the most conducive to that. >> i disagree with that. >> what about turning over information that will incriminate them? >> it is tailored to the sixes. sometimes an individual will be mandaized. it means that the information they give you cannot be used in court. but in fact, the f.b.i. does a great job in eliciting information so they can get information as part of that negotiation with them. they let them know they can languish forever or we can have a dialogue about it. >> just last point. this case that i talked about, this is fully com
sometimes it is on a navy vessel or sometimes it is back here in the united states. we bring them into a process and we can elicit information from them and put them behind bars. >> is the article iii process an ideal way? isn't there limitations in that process? >> i'm proud of our system of laws here and the article iii process and our track record is strong over the past couple dozen years. so many terrorists have been, in fact, been -- >> i understand. but the first...
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about tanks and planes, the smallest air force in the rift i -- history of the country, the smallest navy since 1915, the smallest army since 1940. it's about the c.i.a. it's about the intelligence gathering capabilities of this country. it's also about the department of education. it's about nondefense matters. so i am hopeful that we can finally start voting in the senate rather than just complaining about what the house does. to the president, we bear responsibility as republicans for allowing this to happen. lead us to a better solution. if you do not, mr. president, will you go down in history as one of the most irresponsible commanders in chief in the history of the country, because what you will have done, mr. president, is that you would have allowed the finest military in the history of the world to deteriorate at a time when we need it the most. let's not let that happen. >> thacks fortenberry from texas. let me just add or emphasize three quick points. one is, reducing civilians by attrition is a good idea, even at d.o.d. and i just remind you that yesterday the recently depart
about tanks and planes, the smallest air force in the rift i -- history of the country, the smallest navy since 1915, the smallest army since 1940. it's about the c.i.a. it's about the intelligence gathering capabilities of this country. it's also about the department of education. it's about nondefense matters. so i am hopeful that we can finally start voting in the senate rather than just complaining about what the house does. to the president, we bear responsibility as republicans for...
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and the navy trims a goal for the size of its fleet, which has sparked concern on capitol hill. those are some other headlines for you this morning. also, we told you yesterday about the justice department deciding to sue the s&p ratings company over the financial crisis and how they rated the mortgage bonds. "usa today" money section says -- we will go to randy in missouri, democratic caller. back to our topic, randy, about drone strikes on u.s. citizens overseas. go ahead. caller: good morning, greta. this policy out there is not something that has been a secret. it has always been out there. even people in the senate knew about this policy. second, this is about people who are taking up arms who are u.s. citizens, deciding to plot with the enemy to destroy america. if people are sorry for them, that's on them. but this is what this is about. this is about people who take up arms. it's no different than when boats are on the ground and all of a sudden you have a few americans decided they will cross the line to take up arms with the enemy, what should they do? should the ameri
and the navy trims a goal for the size of its fleet, which has sparked concern on capitol hill. those are some other headlines for you this morning. also, we told you yesterday about the justice department deciding to sue the s&p ratings company over the financial crisis and how they rated the mortgage bonds. "usa today" money section says -- we will go to randy in missouri, democratic caller. back to our topic, randy, about drone strikes on u.s. citizens overseas. go ahead....
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it is not just about planes and the smallest airforce as in the history of the country, the smallest navy since 1915, the smallest farms since 1940. it is about the cia. it is their intelligence gathering capabilities. it is also about public education. it is about non-defense matters. so i am hopeful that we can finally start voting in the senate rather than just complaining about what the house does. to the president, we bear responsibility as republicans for allowing this to happen. lead us to a better solution. if you do not, mr. president, he will go down in history in my view is one of the most irresponsible commanders in chief in the history of the country for what you have done, mr. president, that you allow the finest military in history of the world to deteriorate at a time that we needed it the most. let's not let that happen. >> let me just add or emphasize three quick points. one is, reducing civilians by attrition is a good idea, even at dod. i would remind you that yesterday, the recently departed secretary for policy argued in the washington post that we needed to reduce c
it is not just about planes and the smallest airforce as in the history of the country, the smallest navy since 1915, the smallest farms since 1940. it is about the cia. it is their intelligence gathering capabilities. it is also about public education. it is about non-defense matters. so i am hopeful that we can finally start voting in the senate rather than just complaining about what the house does. to the president, we bear responsibility as republicans for allowing this to happen. lead us...
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it is not just about planes and the smallest airforce as in the history of the country, the smallest navy since 1915, the smallest farms since 1940. it is about the cia. it is their intelligence gathering capabilities. it is also about public education. it is about non-defense matters. so i am hopeful that we can finally start voting in the senate rather than just complaining about what the house does. to the president, we bear responsibility as republicans for allowing this to happen. lead us to a better solution. if you do not, mr. president, he will go down in history in my view is one of the most irresponsible commanders in chief in the history of the country for what you have done, mr. president, that you allow the finest military in history of the world to deteriorate at a time that we needed it the most. let's not let that happen. >> let me just add or emphasize three quick points. one is, reducing civilians by attrition is a good idea, even at dod. i would remind you that yesterday, the recently departed secretary for policy argued in the washington post that we needed to reduce c
it is not just about planes and the smallest airforce as in the history of the country, the smallest navy since 1915, the smallest farms since 1940. it is about the cia. it is their intelligence gathering capabilities. it is also about public education. it is about non-defense matters. so i am hopeful that we can finally start voting in the senate rather than just complaining about what the house does. to the president, we bear responsibility as republicans for allowing this to happen. lead us...
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navy base. >> he did some of the shootings in the los angeles area. they just found his truck burnt out in big bear, which is, you know another couple of hours away from here, so here we go. anybody knows where he is, they're not sure. cops now starting to shoot and they did this morning, at vehicles that resemble his. they've already hit a couple of innocent women. man, they are on oh edge. now you understand, because he's shooting at cops and their families, but that's not the right way to handle it. domier has all these reasons why in his manifesto. >> it lists the names of a dozen officers threatening to find and attack officers' homes their spouses work places, and their children's schools, one killing passage reads i never had the opportunity to have a family of my own. i'm terminating yours. >> he had such a big heart it's like why take this from all of us. >> cenk: we have lewis great the to have you again. first of all domier talks about how the lapd that screwed him over. he said he saw another officer abusing someone they had detained. he r
navy base. >> he did some of the shootings in the los angeles area. they just found his truck burnt out in big bear, which is, you know another couple of hours away from here, so here we go. anybody knows where he is, they're not sure. cops now starting to shoot and they did this morning, at vehicles that resemble his. they've already hit a couple of innocent women. man, they are on oh edge. now you understand, because he's shooting at cops and their families, but that's not the right way...
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. >> as a navy general -- what? dammit. >> stephanie: 56% also support a ban on weapons. >> travis just typed you up a message. >> stephanie: i pay him for loosesy goosy. remember when jim used to screen? hi, okay. hold on. >> how are you? >> oh, dick in dayton, how we miss ye. >> stephanie: hi, jim, good morning, how are you wow this is humor from eight and a half years ago. >> yeah, early days in the show. >> stephanie: tommy in columbus -- >> speaking of columbus. >> stephanie: right? we were talking about the drone stuff yesterday. steph a team of american and iraqi [ inaudible ] estimates that 655,000 more people have died in iraq since coalition forces have arrived in march 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. the deaths are in the millions and people are still dieing to this day because of our invasion into iraq saadam was a no good piece of [ censor bleep ], but he used to have al-qaeda supporters shot on sight. one of my best friend's son is in afghanistan right now, and if a drone st
. >> as a navy general -- what? dammit. >> stephanie: 56% also support a ban on weapons. >> travis just typed you up a message. >> stephanie: i pay him for loosesy goosy. remember when jim used to screen? hi, okay. hold on. >> how are you? >> oh, dick in dayton, how we miss ye. >> stephanie: hi, jim, good morning, how are you wow this is humor from eight and a half years ago. >> yeah, early days in the show. >> stephanie: tommy in columbus...
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so secretary of the navy has basically said that they're sort of -- contingency planning is to cancel 55% of takeoffs or landings on aircraft carriers, 23 ships won't get maintenance or repair work. >> bill: so in terms of preparedness, right, this would be a disaster. >> it is. that was panetta's point. we're really -- >> bill: why do republicans want this? >> i was on the floor yesterday rattling off all of the statistics. speaker boehner actually followed me and you know, went off on this sort of gimmick bill that they're talking about. the president has to come up with a balanced budget within the next ten years. so you know, sequestration, as you know a mechanism back in the '80s, graham ruddiman, the language is also verbatim and it was never intended to actually go into effect. it was to force people to compromise and negotiate. >> bill: which is what we thought it would be over the fight over the debt ceiling. >> when you're talking about a trillion dollars of deficit reduction over the next ten years, the fact is that you could do this on the back of an envelope right now. bu
so secretary of the navy has basically said that they're sort of -- contingency planning is to cancel 55% of takeoffs or landings on aircraft carriers, 23 ships won't get maintenance or repair work. >> bill: so in terms of preparedness, right, this would be a disaster. >> it is. that was panetta's point. we're really -- >> bill: why do republicans want this? >> i was on the floor yesterday rattling off all of the statistics. speaker boehner actually followed me and you...
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ex-navy sniper, another vet killed at texas gun range. former navy seal known for a record number of sniper killings was shot dead at a texas gun range at the hands of a fellow military veteran. chris kyle, the author of the best selling american sniper and chris were gunned down on the ground there in texas. >> deliberately? >> stephanie: yes. >> wow. so sad. >> stephanie: not a gun-free zone wayne lapierrre just fyi, the gun range. all right. the president, by the way oh, dear god rick perry said that the boy scouts who keep their no gay policy, he would like -- to not continue to not be allowed to play any of our reindeer games. >> this is why rick perry's approval ratings in texas are in the crapper. oops. >> stephanie: they're in the oops range. he emphatically said saturday the boy scouts of america should not soften its no gays policy and suggested bending the organization to the winds of popular culture is wrong. he said failure to adhere to the organization's core values was a cause for high rates of teen pregnancy. [ scooby-doo'
ex-navy sniper, another vet killed at texas gun range. former navy seal known for a record number of sniper killings was shot dead at a texas gun range at the hands of a fellow military veteran. chris kyle, the author of the best selling american sniper and chris were gunned down on the ground there in texas. >> deliberately? >> stephanie: yes. >> wow. so sad. >> stephanie: not a gun-free zone wayne lapierrre just fyi, the gun range. all right. the president, by the way...
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. >> stephanie: we were talking about this tragedy yesterday, this navy sale sniper who was shot at the gun range. all of the arguments we can't have gun-free zones, that guy -- talk about not just someone that is trained, apparently the most prolific sniper in american military history is shot at a gun range. >> by someone with ptsd. >> stephanie: exactly. mental health and guns. >> exactly. >> stephanie: twenty-nine minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more gripping, current. ♪ >> announcer: stephanie miller. >> don't you realize politicians always make extravagant promises? >> stephanie: uh-huh. it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome it to. charlie pierce coming up next hour, representative peter welch of the great state
. >> stephanie: we were talking about this tragedy yesterday, this navy sale sniper who was shot at the gun range. all of the arguments we can't have gun-free zones, that guy -- talk about not just someone that is trained, apparently the most prolific sniper in american military history is shot at a gun range. >> by someone with ptsd. >> stephanie: exactly. mental health and guns. >> exactly. >> stephanie: twenty-nine minutes after the hour. right back on the...
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navy. melissa: it's upsets because it seems like unfortunately it would be low on the list of priorities. there's a lot of fires burning in this region right now. we have a lot of problems with iran. this wouldn't be near the top of the list, but it's something, i don't know, can we do anything about it? >> it's hard, for example, there's 200 islands that are part of yemen. think of all the possibilities for landing stuff. this is the one shipment we caught. how many others have there be that we have not caught? melissa: right. there's probably nothing that we can do? >> it's very hard. we can help the yemen navy be proactive. i mean, it's a country that is very poor and can't ford the sophisticated tracking equipment that we can. this is the technoogical assistance we can provide. melissa: same thing, though, where we try to enter, you know, a conflict, there's a conflict going on with yemen, and iran chose a side. as we try to choose a side, you never know who you are dealing with, though
navy. melissa: it's upsets because it seems like unfortunately it would be low on the list of priorities. there's a lot of fires burning in this region right now. we have a lot of problems with iran. this wouldn't be near the top of the list, but it's something, i don't know, can we do anything about it? >> it's hard, for example, there's 200 islands that are part of yemen. think of all the possibilities for landing stuff. this is the one shipment we caught. how many others have there be...
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navy reducing the aircraft carrier presence from two to one vessel in the persian gulf effective immediately. uss truman was set to depart tomorrow, but they will remain at the home in northern virginia until further notice. this is just the tip of the iceberg as budget cuts are due to go to effect tomorrow. connell: says we have to fill the pain to go into some of these cuts. terrific to see you. the sequestered and possibilities making all of these cuts. dagen: it is across the board, making the stories about aircraft carriers, they don't have the facility to adjust spending. keep with the same spending totals because we have to get the growth in spending down. the defense department, gives the government agencies the ability to adjust what parts of spending the think are most readily adjusted. dagen: the thing about spending cuts, negative growth in the fourth quarter, many in washington, many democrats say the economy is growing very slowly, we can't afford to cut spending at this time. >> it is slowing the growth rate because we have a lot of growth in government spending, tremendous am
navy reducing the aircraft carrier presence from two to one vessel in the persian gulf effective immediately. uss truman was set to depart tomorrow, but they will remain at the home in northern virginia until further notice. this is just the tip of the iceberg as budget cuts are due to go to effect tomorrow. connell: says we have to fill the pain to go into some of these cuts. terrific to see you. the sequestered and possibilities making all of these cuts. dagen: it is across the board, making...